tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36295725.post2275993242350173978..comments2023-12-25T14:38:40.017-05:00Comments on Holy Ordinary: The Sacraments of Everyday Life: Of Pioneering QuakersBrent Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01351957537347562545noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36295725.post-87907502776210615532008-10-18T11:17:00.000-04:002008-10-18T11:17:00.000-04:00Thanks so much David! I will look for them in the ...Thanks so much David! I will look for them in the phone directory! If they are interested in becoming part of our worship group, that would be five of us -- an abundance! Blessings -Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36295725.post-9770894644854387222008-09-17T10:40:00.000-04:002008-09-17T10:40:00.000-04:00Peggy in Terre Haute --I KNOW of another Quaker fa...Peggy in Terre Haute --<BR/><BR/>I KNOW of another Quaker family, which had silent meeting in their home for a number of years after moving there from Peoria, and then gave it up. They were even listed in the Illinois Yearly Meeting directory for a while as "Wabash Valley Worship Group." Alas, as can happen with self-started worship groups, it was not under the care of an established Monthly Meeting, and thus lacked regular ongoing support.<BR/><BR/> Frank & Julie Young are the couple. Frank was once clerk of Illinois YM, and is brother to the former presiding clerk of FGC. He is retired (I think) from teaching at Rose-Hulman in computer science. Maybe can track him down there, if they're not in the phone book.<BR/><BR/>You folks deserve to find each other!<BR/><BR/>Wishing you well, -David Finke<BR/>Columbia, MO (ILYM)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36295725.post-33830286057975102322008-09-13T08:14:00.000-04:002008-09-13T08:14:00.000-04:00Well, in Dec. 2003, I moved to Terre Haute, where ...Well, in Dec. 2003, I moved to Terre Haute, where there was no apparent meeting in the phone book or on quakerfinder.org (I now know that there is a Friends Holiness Church, but it's not a good fit for me) and no one I asked had heard of any Quakers. I quickly discovered that driving to Bloomington every Sunday was not realistic for me.<BR/><BR/>I sent off for the booklet you refer to. The first step: Find the other Quakers in your community. Hmmmm. How exactly would I find them? A smell? A look? (Actually, I heard a message once about the Secret Quaker Dress Code, but the blue jean/sandle look is shared by other groups). A secret handshake (and can I say that I would LOVE a secret Quaker handshake?) It's just not that easy to spot a Quaker in a crowd, unless, hey, it's a crowd doing something close to a Quaker's heart.<BR/><BR/>So I attended an anti-war event at the local Unitarian church. The Unitarians gathered round me to find out who I was and where I was from, and I told them that I had moved to Terre Haute and was a Quaker. They were stunned! A Quaker! A real, live Quaker! Right there! I thought they were going to touch my hair. Sigh. Obviously no Quakers there.<BR/><BR/>I went to the White Violet Center for Eco-Justice. I told them that I was a Quaker. They looked at me with a puzzled look. No Quakers there either.<BR/><BR/>I finally found one Quaker woman attending a Congregational church. She said that there used to be 14 Quaker families many decades ago who all attended the Congregational church in the morning and then would gather for Quaker worship on Sunday afternoons. Because they never built a meetinghouse, though, kids grew up, went away, but then didn't have a place to come back to. She felt it was a mistake that they never built a meetinghouse. Not only was there nowhere for their kids to return to or attend, there was no way for new people or interested people to find them. She said she was the last surviving member of that group to the best of her knowledge.<BR/><BR/>On one hand, it has been good for me to worship with other groups--from an Episcopal church to an Evangelical, nondenominational church. It allowed me to refocus on what we have in common rather than how we are different. On the other, I have sat through many services longing for a period of silence - and the presence of other Quakers. I also have my own little Quaker meeting of one from time to time. Mostly on my deck. Sometimes in bed.<BR/><BR/>Luckily, last month a Quaker family moved from Boulder to Terre Haute, though they are committing themselves to driving to Bloomington for worship. They did mention they might be open to a worship group for those weeks that weather or something else keeps them from the drive. I'm hopeful!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36295725.post-92053147292747764662008-08-11T22:05:00.000-04:002008-08-11T22:05:00.000-04:00Exactly! My town is rumored to have a Quaker wors...Exactly! My town is rumored to have a Quaker worship group. The local paper has a church directory that has two different listings with different phone numbers for the same worship group. Neither one works. My cousin (a FGC Friend) knew about QuakerFinder.org, and I finally found a good phone number...but they're off until September. <BR/><BR/>So I think rule #1 of your manual should be to make sure all directory listings are routinely updated.<BR/><BR/>#2 should be to look at QuakerFinder.org.<BR/><BR/>L. Whisler<BR/>laurelwhisler at yahoo dot comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36295725.post-49616612780121765802008-08-09T20:58:00.000-04:002008-08-09T20:58:00.000-04:00I have had a similar problem. I have moved 17 tim...I have had a similar problem. I have moved 17 times in 7 years, and while I have always been near a meeting (except for right now, in Korea), I have yet to be able to actually officially join the RSoF, because I have never been with one meeting long enough to do so!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36295725.post-46230798763324682042008-08-05T10:55:00.000-04:002008-08-05T10:55:00.000-04:00Thanks to all. Ideas to incorporate into such a "...Thanks to all. Ideas to incorporate into such a "guidebook" would be appreciated -- a sort of "how-to?" Maybe formatted as a PDF and downloadable for free for anyone who wants a copy. <BR/><BR/>I just attended the Indianapolis version of "The Church Basement Roadshow" with Doug Pagitt, Tony Jones, and Mark Scandrette -- very encouraging and helps me think we might be on the right track here. Not puttng new wine in old wineskins, but doing a new thing. Like Maurine pointing out that Sunday morning is not "sacrosanct." I know our group meets on Sunday evenings. <BR/><BR/>I'd be happy to do some writing/assembling? Any others wish to contribute, edit, etc?Brent Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01351957537347562545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36295725.post-89623078112302786922008-08-05T10:28:00.000-04:002008-08-05T10:28:00.000-04:00In the Chicago area we have a small worship group ...In the Chicago area we have a small worship group called Friends Gathering in Jesus Christ, which meets on Saturdays twice a month. Our attenders come from three different Quaker traditions and share the Gospel tradition. Not all Quaker gatherings need to happen on Sunday.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17194630932723452234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36295725.post-73965732267278223952008-08-05T08:59:00.000-04:002008-08-05T08:59:00.000-04:00YES!The conservative branch (or at least OYM) has ...YES!<BR/><BR/>The conservative branch (or at least OYM) has historically said to its kids: "Oh, don't move away from your meeting. But if you do... come back and visit sometime." Aaaack! That's changing, thank goodness, but it's been a long time coming.<BR/><BR/>We have such good news to share! It's time to begin encouraging that "mission sense" in people. Go for it, Brent.Shawna Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18031043060163590745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36295725.post-90882227439709379832008-08-05T07:56:00.000-04:002008-08-05T07:56:00.000-04:00Brent, I travel under appointment of New York Year...Brent, I travel under appointment of New York Yearly Meeting in a ministry of presence and encouragement for our small meetings and worship groups, one of which (in the Adirondack Mountains) has three members for most of the year. (The tourists come in July and August.)<BR/><BR/>Ever since I began to learn more about midwestern Friends when I joined the FUM board six years ago, I have been wondering what I (raised a Hicksite in Philadelphia Yearly Meeting) have to contribute to Friends who are accustomed to having a pastor. I am, by no means, an expert in church growth or outreach, but we do have some Good News. <BR/><BR/>I am eager to be part of a serious conversation about this. I expect to be in Richmond over the Columbus Day weekend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36295725.post-91891628916496420632008-08-04T18:55:00.000-04:002008-08-04T18:55:00.000-04:00Logical, sensible, revolutionary, all at the same ...Logical, sensible, revolutionary, all at the same time! :)Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18160971651020687637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36295725.post-63454125068060221112008-08-04T17:34:00.000-04:002008-08-04T17:34:00.000-04:00sounds good to me!sounds good to me!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com